I believe that Dante didn't also bind the mouthes of the envious so he could talk tot hem. If there mouths were sewed shut like there eyes then Dante (writer) wouldn't have been able to show the evolution of Dante (pilgrim) since his visit to the ledge of pride. If that wasn't needed I think the real purgatory would have there mouthes bound.
I believe that envy can be a good thing because it forces one to strive towards something. On the other hand, I think it is very important for one to be greatful and content with what he or she has or how he or she is.
I disagree that generosity is the virtue for envy. to me it seems like generosity would be the virtue corisponding with greed. i would think that the virtue corisponding to envy would have to be just being gratfull for what you have instead of concentrating on what you want and/or lack.
In my opinion, Envy can be good in some situations. Say Person A envy's an invention that Person B has built. Envy might drive Person B to build something better. I think envy is usually fine as a motivator to do well, but can easily go wrong. e.g. stealing and brooding hate
I guess "gratitude" is one virtue opposite to envy. I don't know that it totally captures the the situations that Dante describes as virtues-- voluntary poverty, charity, and such.
Maybe envy is a big part of some people's lives and they would agree that it is a sin that must be purged. Personally, envy doesn't really play into my life, and I have trouble understanding why it's so important to me.
I disagree. I think that drive to do something should not be triggered by envy-but to improve oneself. I think that the punishment is fitting, so that those who envy cannot see, therefore they cannot want.
this is sofia. i think envy is interesting because it's such a manufactured sin. i find that we feel it because we're told to more than with any other sin. i've often seen a shirt or something in a store, found it hideous, but upon seeing the shirt worn by another person, started to burn with desire for the piece of clothing.
When I first think about envy, I think about seeing things or qualities that others have and you want. I think that if you let it envy can take a bad turn and control your life. Making your life only about others accomplishments. However, I also think that envy is not always a bad thing. If you see someone that has something you want, your envy for that person can drive you to work hard and get what you don't have. I believe that you should not stay away from envy, but you should be careful. Want things that are within your react. There's no use wanting what you will never be able to get, however wanting what you can accomplish is a great quality to have in life. That is where drive and passion come from.
I think that envy is generally a bad thing, especially when you are envious about non material objects. If you want to be rich, there is nothing bad about that, but if you think that you aren't smart enough or good looking enough or what have you, it means that you are dissatisfied with what god has given you. And god loves what he creates, so its kind of like rejecting gods love.
Envy is lame. Yet we all do it. Maybe subconsciously, maybe not. But we all have some sort of drive for more. We consume because we think we need. We think we need because other people have. Other people have because they think they need. Its a crazy trippy cycle. The only way to escape is to remove all wants, material or otherwise. Which is also kind of lame. So, well, I guess we're screwed.
What really confused me about the ledge of envy was the clothing that the punished souls were wearing. I understand that the discomfort of the rough wool would add to their pain and reflection, but in general I wonder if the cloaks served a purpose to passersby. The souls are all blinded, and because they are consumed in self-reflection, do not care about the clothes of those around them. So whats the point of wearing cloths at all?
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I believe that Dante didn't also bind the mouthes of the envious so he could talk tot hem. If there mouths were sewed shut like there eyes then Dante (writer) wouldn't have been able to show the evolution of Dante (pilgrim) since his visit to the ledge of pride. If that wasn't needed I think the real purgatory would have there mouthes bound.
I believe that envy can be a good thing because it forces one to strive towards something. On the other hand, I think it is very important for one to be greatful and content with what he or she has or how he or she is.
I disagree that generosity is the virtue for envy. to me it seems like generosity would be the virtue corisponding with greed. i would think that the virtue corisponding to envy would have to be just being gratfull for what you have instead of concentrating on what you want and/or lack.
envy can be both good and bad... you can look up at someone as a roll model or just be like... meh... ahhh... dfaosh...
In my opinion, Envy can be good in some situations. Say Person A envy's an invention that Person B has built. Envy might drive Person B to build something better. I think envy is usually fine as a motivator to do well, but can easily go wrong. e.g. stealing and brooding hate
I guess "gratitude" is one virtue opposite to envy. I don't know that it totally captures the the situations that Dante describes as virtues-- voluntary poverty, charity, and such.
Maybe envy is a big part of some people's lives and they would agree that it is a sin that must be purged. Personally, envy doesn't really play into my life, and I have trouble understanding why it's so important to me.
I disagree. I think that drive to do something should not be triggered by envy-but to improve oneself.
I think that the punishment is fitting, so that those who envy cannot see, therefore they cannot want.
i'm envious that everyone else has solid thoughts and ideas about envy ~ian~ sjhfjhgsfjkhgfgsdfhvisdfbkdfhbviusdf
I think envy can be a good thing depending on what your envious of, and if you have the stamina to attain your goal. Envy can be a good motivator.
this is sofia. i think envy is interesting because it's such a manufactured sin. i find that we feel it because we're told to more than with any other sin. i've often seen a shirt or something in a store, found it hideous, but upon seeing the shirt worn by another person, started to burn with desire for the piece of clothing.
When I first think about envy, I think about seeing things or qualities that others have and you want. I think that if you let it envy can take a bad turn and control your life. Making your life only about others accomplishments. However, I also think that envy is not always a bad thing. If you see someone that has something you want, your envy for that person can drive you to work hard and get what you don't have. I believe that you should not stay away from envy, but you should be careful. Want things that are within your react. There's no use wanting what you will never be able to get, however wanting what you can accomplish is a great quality to have in life. That is where drive and passion come from.
I think that envy is generally a bad thing, especially when you are envious about non material objects. If you want to be rich, there is nothing bad about that, but if you think that you aren't smart enough or good looking enough or what have you, it means that you are dissatisfied with what god has given you. And god loves what he creates, so its kind of like rejecting gods love.
Envy is lame. Yet we all do it. Maybe subconsciously, maybe not. But we all have some sort of drive for more. We consume because we think we need. We think we need because other people have. Other people have because they think they need. Its a crazy trippy cycle. The only way to escape is to remove all wants, material or otherwise. Which is also kind of lame. So, well, I guess we're screwed.
Envy, like pride and other sins, is sometimes an uncontrollable emotion. Overall though envy can either have a negative or a positive response.
What really confused me about the ledge of envy was the clothing that the punished souls were wearing. I understand that the discomfort of the rough wool would add to their pain and reflection, but in general I wonder if the cloaks served a purpose to passersby. The souls are all blinded, and because they are consumed in self-reflection, do not care about the clothes of those around them. So whats the point of wearing cloths at all?
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